{"id":8533,"date":"2024-03-11T09:16:11","date_gmt":"2024-03-11T09:16:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bath.ac.uk\/edswahs\/?p=8533"},"modified":"2024-03-11T09:16:11","modified_gmt":"2024-03-11T09:16:11","slug":"whats-a-green-job","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bath.ac.uk\/edswahs\/2024\/03\/11\/whats-a-green-job\/","title":{"rendered":"What's a Green Job?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 1\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p>The International Labour Organization's pretty broad definition of green jobs is \u201cdecent jobs in any economic sector which contribute to preserving, restoring and enhancing environmental quality\", so there should be lots of them around. \u00a0But where are they?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>It's an act of faith by environmentalists of all kinds that the shift to more sustainable living will generate lots of these jobs. \u00a0Governments tend to say this as well. \u00a0Indeed, the UK government looks forward to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/government\/news\/uk-government-launches-taskforce-to-support-drive-for-2-million-green-jobs-by-2030\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">two million<\/a> green jobs by 2030.<\/p>\n<p>So how are we doing? \u00a0The ONS has reported that there were just over <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ons.gov.uk\/economy\/environmentalaccounts\/bulletins\/experimentalestimatesofgreenjobsuk\/2023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">500,000 green jobs<\/a> in 2020, but their definition is also a broad one including the waste business, education (environmental educators!) and the management of government agencies. \u00a0 As it looks as if there has been some rebranding, a sceptical eye seems essential. \u00a0It's appropriate, then, that <a href=\"https:\/\/dailysceptic.org\/2024\/02\/13\/what-green-jobs\/?mc_cid=2c547e81fe&amp;mc_eid=2ae61a1551\">The Daily Sceptic<\/a> has written about this topic with what some will no doubt see as an overly jaundiced eye.<\/p>\n<p>But so has The Economist, which has written about what it says is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.economist.com\/finance-and-economics\/2023\/11\/14\/the-false-promise-of-green-jobs\">the false promise<\/a> of green jobs, saying that modern industrial policy has a tension at its heart. \u00a0It concluded:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\"Politicians across the rich world agree that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.economist.com\/special-report\/2023\/10\/02\/new-industrial-policies-will-make-the-world-more-unequal\" data-analytics=\"in_body:link_2:para_2\">industrial policy<\/a>\u2014wheezes which aim to alter the structure of the economy by boosting particular sectors\u2014deserves to make a comeback. Just about all agree that it should focus on climate change. But is there actually any logic to combining the two? Industrial policy seeks prosperity in the form of economic growth and jobs; climate policy seeks lower emissions and the prevention of global warming. Marrying two aims often means neither is done well. As politicians pour trillions of dollars into green industrial policy, they will increasingly have to choose between the two objectives.\"<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/NAEE.org.uk\">NAEE<\/a> has an even broader view than the ILO. \u00a0It <a href=\"https:\/\/naee.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/NAEE-EAC-submission.pdf\">has argued<\/a> that \"all jobs should be seen as green jobs these days even though they do not have the specific ILO focus on preserving, restoring or enhancing environmental quality.\" \u00a0It says this because of [i] the environmental laws and regulation already in place that all employers and employees now face in a routine, everyday way; and [ii] because of the moral imperatives which underpin these.\"<\/p>\n<p>There is certainly something in this. \u00a0It does not, however, always relate to the creation of new jobs, but to rethinking existing ones, or to what (as noted above) some have termed merely 're-branding'.<\/p>\n<p>I wonder where and how we should draw the line. \u00a0Is making a solar panel a green job? \u00a0Very plausibly, yes. And mining the minerals? \u00a0Again, plausibly yes. \u00a0Is transporting the panel from China to Cologne (say) a green job? \u00a0Maybe. \u00a0If the ship \/ barge also contains 50% widgets, is it realistically only half a green job? \u00a0Is selling the panel to a homeowner a green job? \u00a0And installing? \u00a0Is compiling stats on solar panel installations a green job? \u00a0Is writing media articles on solar panels a green job? \u00a0Is writing to panel owners offering to buy the panels to get the feed-in tariffs a green job? \u00a0Is fraudulently claiming in a cold call that an inverter needs replacing a green job? \u00a0Does the idea of a green job make sense?<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, The Economist recently argued that the EU should focus on importing solar panels from China rather than creating an EU manufacturing industry. \u00a0It argues that the latter would be loss-making as Chinese panels are relatively cheap (rather like their battery EVs). \u00a0The Economist said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cGiven its expensive workers, high energy costs and weak industrial supply chains, the EU should not be making photovoltaic cells. Those who worry about French-style \u201cstrategic autonomy\u201d should splurge on defence, not on coddling industries that will never be able to turn a profit. Europe has the chance to green itself fast and cheaply through imports. It should seize it.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does this logic also apply to making BEVs, I wonder. \u00a0We have these issues in the UK as well and we've opted for the import model for solar panels and wind turbines almost by default. \u00a0And we agonise over it every week. \u00a0But hang on! \u00a0If we import the panels and turbines, there will be potential job losses, but all the associated carbon emissions will be down to China rather than to us and so we'll be able to carry on bragging about how well we\u2019re doing. \u00a0Now that's a win ...<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The International Labour Organization's pretty broad definition of green jobs is \u201cdecent jobs in any economic sector which contribute to preserving, restoring and enhancing environmental quality\", so there should be lots of them around. \u00a0But where are they? 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